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I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:08 pm
by mulcahy78
I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Mike

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:44 pm
by Zack
mulcahy78 wrote:I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Mike
I'm not sure but I think they will. I'm no expert though. I know the newer wheels will fit on the older cars. Ask Minidave.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:37 am
by MiniManiac
mulcahy78 wrote:I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Mike
If I remember correctly, the lug sizes are too small. The first gens had 12mm and the newer ones are 14mm. I know R53 wheels won't fit on my R56 because of this issue.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:10 am
by Zack
If you absolutely want gen 1 wheels find ones off a late build 2006 Cooper like mine. Those are the right lug size.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:51 am
by Minidave
If they are factory OEM wheels they will fit with no problem, depending on the size - IE 15" Cooper wheels might not clear the brake calipers on a Cooper S - you need 16" or 17" wheels.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:49 pm
by mulcahy78
Minidave wrote:If they are factory OEM wheels they will fit with no problem, depending on the size - IE 15" Cooper wheels might not clear the brake calipers on a Cooper S - you need 16" or 17" wheels.
Thanks man!

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:51 pm
by Zack
MiniManiac wrote:
mulcahy78 wrote:I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Mike
If I remember correctly, the lug sizes are too small. The first gens had 12mm and the newer ones are 14mm. I know R53 wheels won't fit on my R56 because of this issue.
My r53 wheels would have fitted on your r56 since it was a end of the run build and had 14mm lugs and the r56 Cooper s brakes.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:46 pm
by IowaM1N1
mulcahy78 wrote:I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!
The standard size wheel on the 'S' was 16", so it should fit a 2009 Clubman.

If we knew what wheels you were looking at, we might be able to provide a little more advice.

http://libraryofmotoring.info/facts/wheels/


From: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wheels_tyres
Can all OEM wheels be fitted to either generation MINI?
NOTE: The information below applies only to wheels for R50, R52, R53, R55, R56, R57 models. Wheels for R60 models have a different bolt pattern and will therefore not fit.

On July 12, 2006 the size of wheel bolts was changed from M12x1.5 to M14x1.25. There exists a misconception that this change in wheel bolt size precludes fitting early OEM wheels on later model cars. This is simply not true as all OEM wheels have holes large enough for either size wheel bolt.

It's the front disk brake size that determines which OEM wheels will fit as shown below:
(See table at link for an easier-to-read version)
+---------------------+-----------+----------+
| Generation - Models | Disk Size | Wheels |
+---------------------+-----------+----------+
| 1st - All | 276 | 15" All |
| | | 16" All |
| | | 17" All |
| | | 18" All |
+---------------------+-----------+----------+
| 2nd - Cooper / One | 280 | 15" All |
| | | 16" All |
| | | 17" All |
| | | 18" All |
+---------------------+-----------+----------+
| 1st - Factory GP | 294 | 16" R87 |
| 1st - JCW Brake Kit | | 16" R94 |
| 2nd - Cooper S | | 16" R102 |
| | | 16" R103 |
| | | 16" R115 |
| | | 16" R119 |
| | | 16" R120 |
| | | 17" All |
| | | 18" All |
+---------------------+-----------+----------+
| 2nd - Factory Works | 316 | 17" R97 |
| 2nd - JCW Brake Kit | | 17" R104 |
| | | 17" R108 |
| | | 17" R112 |
| | | 17" R114 |
| | | 18" R113 |
+---------------------+-----------+----------+

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:13 pm
by mulcahy78
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This is the one I'm looking at.... Hope this helps

It is a 16

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:03 am
by IowaM1N1
Is your Clubman an 'S'?

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:22 pm
by MiniManiac
Zackattack28 wrote:
MiniManiac wrote:
mulcahy78 wrote:I am looking at a set of wheels that came off of 2004 Mini Cooper S. I am wanting to know if they will fit my 2009 Clubman?
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Mike
If I remember correctly, the lug sizes are too small. The first gens had 12mm and the newer ones are 14mm. I know R53 wheels won't fit on my R56 because of this issue.
My r53 wheels would have fitted on your r56 since it was a end of the run build and had 14mm lugs and the r56 Cooper s brakes.
"On July 12, 2006 the size of wheel bolts was changed from M12x1.5 to M14x1.25. There exists a misconception that this change in wheel bolt size precludes fitting early OEM wheels on later model cars. This is simply not true as all OEM wheels have holes large enough for either size wheel bolt."

This is news to me. Hmmmm........

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:23 pm
by Zack
Sometimes that is true but used wheels are a heck of a bargain over aftermarket, especially if they want the stock look still and the wheels are in good shape.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:40 am
by Minidave
It's true, even the early OEM wheels have 14mm holes, even tho the early cars had 12mm wheel bolts - the wheels are hub centric, so the bolts just hold the wheels on, they don't center it.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:35 am
by Zack
Oddly enough the wheels you're interested in I just purchased a used set with old Dunlop run flats on them yesterday. Probably gonna use them for autocross or as snow tires.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:47 am
by mulcahy78
IowaM1N1 wrote:Is your Clubman an 'S'?
nope it's just a clubman

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:53 am
by mulcahy78
Thanks for all the help! I have another question for you guys... The wheels I just bought don't have the tire pressure sensor can I get tire pressure sensors for them?
If so where can I get them and are they crazy expensive to put in?

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:11 am
by MiniManiac
mulcahy78 wrote:Thanks for all the help! I have another question for you guys... The wheels I just bought don't have the tire pressure sensor can I get tire pressure sensors for them?
If so where can I get them and are they crazy expensive to put in?
I bought my replacements on tire rack. There are plenty of places to buy them, amazon, outmotoring, the dealer. I am not sure of the prices but last time I checked, they were about 60-70 bucks each. If it is for a spare set, then I wouldn't even bother. I don't run them in my snow tire package and there aren't any issues. There is just the light on the speedo that stays lit but no annoying sounds.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:07 am
by Minidave
Just be sure to get the right ones, they changed in 2010 IIRC, so the 2007-2009+ ones won't work in the later cars.

I also ran my car without them for a while and the light never bothered me either, but it is nice to have the system operating - we get such huge swings in temps that can really affect tire pressure, it's a good reminder to make sure they're up to snuff.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:15 pm
by mulcahy78
Minidave wrote:Just be sure to get the right ones, they changed in 2010 IIRC, so the 2007-2009+ ones won't work in the later cars.

I also ran my car without them for a while and the light never bothered me either, but it is nice to have the system operating - we get such huge swings in temps that can really affect tire pressure, it's a good reminder to make sure they're up to snuff.

cool thanks! How complicated is it to put a tire pressure sensors on the wheel? Do you have to have a special tool or anything

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:31 pm
by Minidave
They go inside the wheel, so you have to break down the tire.....no biggy if you're putting new tires on the car, more trouble than it's worth if not. Good news, the 2007-2009 sensors are the cheapest.

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:26 pm
by mulcahy78
Minidave wrote:They go inside the wheel, so you have to break down the tire.....no biggy if you're putting new tires on the car, more trouble than it's worth if not. Good news, the 2007-2009 sensors are the cheapest.
That is good news! I found these for $172 http://www.oewheelsllc.com/TPMS-Sensors ... wvGo14yHiM

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:49 pm
by Minidave
That's about what Tire Rack charged me for mine IIRC, I bought mine with a new set of tires.....just for fun you might call Baron Parts and see what they charge for them, or if they have any from take off wheels they might sell cheap.

I don't know why the dealer is always the last place anyone call for parts for their cars..... :roll: :lol:

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:51 pm
by Zack
Minidave wrote:That's about what Tire Rack charged me for mine IIRC.....just for fun you might call Baron Parts and see what they charge for them, or if they have any from take off wheels they might sell cheap.

I don't know why the dealer is always the last place anyone call for parts for their cars..... :roll: :lol:
Funny one Dave

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:10 pm
by mulcahy78
Minidave wrote:That's about what Tire Rack charged me for mine IIRC, I bought mine with a new set of tires.....just for fun you might call Baron Parts and see what they charge for them, or if they have any from take off wheels they might sell cheap.

I don't know why the dealer is always the last place anyone call for parts for their cars..... :roll: :lol:
That is a good idea to see if they have any off of some take off wheels!

Re: I'm new to Mini's and could use some help

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:59 am
by MiniManiac
Minidave wrote:That's about what Tire Rack charged me for mine IIRC, I bought mine with a new set of tires.....just for fun you might call Baron Parts and see what they charge for them, or if they have any from take off wheels they might sell cheap.

I don't know why the dealer is always the last place anyone call for parts for their cars..... :roll: :lol:
That is actually a very good idea. When I was looking to add some to my winter rims I called my buddy in Cali and the dealer had a set for sale. It was still price ~ 55 per.